The recipe for desh in the crucible is not feasible in practice

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I don’t know why no one has discovered this problem for more than 3 years. Due to the temperature requirement of the recipe exceeding the boiling point of lithium, using this recipe in a crucible in actual games will only cause lithium to evaporate and cannot obtain desh, which makes the recipe impractical.

In addition, I found that processing redstone resulted in more rare earths than I had imagined. Then, I used a magnet to attract a pile of bastnasite in the Twilight Forest, which led to too much lanthanum and cerium. And I don’t have as much demand for desh. Can you try adding more functions to them? (Stop saying ‘put them in the matter fabricator’)

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Are you sure the Crucible Recipe actually does not work? Have you tried adding Lithium last and in tiny amounts at a time?

And Desh has all the decorative stuff for it, right?

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The only possible method is to finally add lithium when all remaining materials have been heated above the specified temperature, which is not safe because it may accidentally lower the temperature below the alloying temperature, and then it will be bad, especially when using large crucibles.To my knowledge, other crucible alloying recipes for GT6 should not have this issue (brass was fixed a long time ago).

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I do have something that detects if a recipe has this issue, which is why i am wondering if you forgot that the SECOND highest melting point is what counts.

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The first high niobium is 2750K, the second high boron is 2349K, and this is exactly the alloying temperature. However, the boiling point of lithium is 1560K, which is why it sucked up…

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But yeah I cannot change that, it is not my Alloy, so you will have to either use HBMs Recipe or deal with Lithium being inserted last.

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Why can’t we directly change the temperature of the alloying? At this temperature, an alloy is formed but has not reached the melting point, so it still needs to be heated to the melting point. Is this not acceptable? I did not add HBM or GalactiCraft

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Because either all or all but one of the ingredient materials must be molten for alloying to occur, that is why.

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My guess is he was asking why cant you just add an overrride to that logic and make this specific recipe work differently.

Also do I understand it correctly that by inserting the lithium last with small amounts when everyting is at above the alloying temperature then when a piece of lithium is inserted the first tick it will melt and alloy together and does not have time to boil? If it lasts one more tick (which it does not in this scenario) it will boil?

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This discussion has potential to end with new dust mixing recipe.

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But the mixer doesn’t have as many input slots

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works with bauxite too when the right conditions are met

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I checked and found that the melting point of desh is 1540K, which is lower than the boiling point of lithium at 1560K. Therefore, lowering the alloying temperature is feasible.

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What are you refering to?

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A trick where when Bauxite melts into Aluminium at very high temperatures, it shrinks down in size, suddenly a stack of ice blocks inside the Crucible are counted as freshly thrown in, cooling down the Crucible to a temperature where Aluminium does not boil.

Edit: I should add that this was before i added the Alumina Processing Chain. But the trick itself still works if there is other Materials like that.

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Ok, thanks now I understand. I did not know there was a direct bauxite smelting recipe

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